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Post by Guest Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:24 pm

At the Town Ranch you can choose to have up to 3 ranch animals at a time. Cows are one of them.
Others are | Chicken | Cow | Horse | Pig | Sheep |

Ranch animal - Cow Cow

The price is determined by the Town Council

Food: No special feed required
Lifetime: 70 days
Produce by milking every 3 days: 4 milk per milking (23 days total = 92 milk per cow)
Produce by slaughtering: 8 meat and 3 to 4 leather squares (none of your skills improve this).

You need: A butcher's knife to slaughter

Special:
1. Milking and feeding increases your cow attitude.
2. Milking your cow requires 20 stamina. (less as the Cow attitude skill increases).
3. The consumption of milk increases your physical resistance skill. It does not decrease your hunger points.
4. Milk is considered a 'drink' so you can have maximum 5 milk in a day.
5. Milk also is used in cheese production (which can be turned into meals to increase your luck skill).
6. Eating meat (after it's cooked) increases Strength Skill
7. Leather squares are used to create items from the Tailor's workshop
8. Slaughtering cow takes 25 stamina (Less as Cow attitude skill increases)
9. Slaughtering damages your knife with half of the stamina used for Slaughter, rounded up.
10. You can also hire someone else to milk or slaughter your cow.

How to work out prices for the goods produced from the cow:

A) COST OF EACH ITEM WITH EQUAL VALUE:
1. Cost of each item produced from the cow: Cost per milk (considering there are 103 items produced by the cow: 92 milk, 8 meat and 3 or 4 hides): add 1a to 1d together)/103(or 104) items =
1a. Cost of cow:
1.b Stamina used milking your cow (20 stamina x 23 milking devided by the amount of milk gained per cow 92: (20 x 23): 460 stamina x .005 bronze =
1c. cost of stamina to slaughter = **stamina x .5 bronze =
1d. Cost of knife durability = cost of knife/ max durability points * Durability spent =

B) ALTERNATIVE WORKING OUT COSTS FOR EACH TYPE OF ITEM:

1. Milk:
1.a Cost of cow (for only Milk) : *** bronze/103 (or 104) * 92.
1.b Cost of stamina for each milk: 20 stamina x 23 milkings/92 milk (20 x 23/92 = 5 stamina) = 5 stamina x .5 bronze. (unless it costs you less stamina per milking.)

2. Meat and Hides:
2.a Cost of cow (for only Meat & hides): *** bronze/103 (or 104) * 11 (or 12).
2b. cost of stamina to slaughter = **stamina x .5 bronze =
2c. Cost of knife durability = cost of knife/max durability points * Durability spent =

Edited by Jpragavan : Updated a bit |11-Jan-2013|


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Post by Guest Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:43 pm

More info is needed! Please fill in with whatever you can.

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Post by Edric Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:10 pm

Current town prices for new animals :
Animal......................Price
Chicken....................1 S 10 B
Cow...........................5 S 50 B
Horse.................1 G, 25 S 0 B
Pig.............................4 S 30 B
Sheep......................3 S 70 B

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Post by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:08 pm

Thanks Edric! I've updated the prices on every ranch animal Very Happy

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:19 am

No special feed required.

Not sure if they can be fed with corn or wheat and what effect that would have though.

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Post by Guest Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:54 am

OKay, updates for this.

Cow cost in Spero- 5 silver

Life- 75 days

Milk yield- 4 milk (it may be every 4 days, or every 3 days you can milk, I'll have to check)

Leather Yield- 3 leather Squares(don't know meat)

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Post by Guest Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:30 pm

Not sure what kind of cows you have that live 75 days. I have 3 cows and all can be 70 days max. Thanks for pointing out that I need to update this.

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Post by Guest Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:36 am

More info:

From Aro:
When slaughtering a sheep you will receive 2 Leather Squares.
When slaughtering a cow you will receive 3 or 4 Leather Squares.

None of your skills improves this.

Plus you get 8 meat from slaughtering your cow. Had 3 cows now, got the same amount of meat each time. And you still get to milk every 3 days 23 days total = 92 milk per cow, cows still last 70 days.


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Post by Guest Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:41 am

This book has been updated using the information posted up to this post.

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:56 am

This book has been updated with working out prices for cow produced items. The wage is only a recommendation, you can put in any kind of wage you like.

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Post by Helfdane Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:47 pm

Niveus wrote:
2. The consumpition of milk increaeses your intelligence skill, but does not decrease your hunger points.

Nobody has caught this? Milk increases Physical Resistance, not Intellect. That is raised by eating fish.
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Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:55 am

It was waiting to be caught by you. Ranch animal - Cow 2373969928


Updated. ^^

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Post by Dracula Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:10 am

0,05 bronze per stamina?,this is a slave wage!
i'm guessing you meant 0,5?

also:can someone post the calculations for slaughtering and milking?
like as in stamina cost reduction for x skill?


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Post by Guest Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:12 am

town wages customarily are .05 bronze per stamina. I know that I only charge .1 bronze per stamina. Its just a base from the lowest wage one can work for, thats all. Smile

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Post by Dracula Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:15 am

0,1 is a horrible wage!
0,25 is good for crafting
but 0,5 is a must for field units in my opinions

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Post by Axel Ackland Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:58 pm

If I remember right the basic costs for milking and slaughtering a cow are 20 and 25 stamina respectively. It currently costs me 16 and 21 stamina to do those tasks and my current skill is about 44 in cow attitude. I assume that the stamina requirement for milking and slaughtering drops by 1 unit for every 10 skill levels you have. But, I'm definitely not sure about it, if others could confirm it, that would work.

Field work in Spero generally pays 25-30 bronze per unit. For animals we pay .5 bronze per stamina, which is a little low IMO, but that's debatable since people gain skill and can do more work with less stamina.

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Post by anto_capone Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:09 pm

Yes, animals in Spero, to breed, pay .5 bronze per stamina.

With 60% skill, can easily make 2 silver a day just breeding animals. Smile
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Post by Dracula Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:52 am

i noticed that wages have been going down and down
i even saw a job for a field for 10 bronze
i find this a cause for concern

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Post by anto_capone Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:09 pm

pretty steady here in spero, wages stay at 25-40 bronze per field unit Smile
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Post by Dracula Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:51 am

i might move soon Razz


camaar-->monatry-->40 days-->spero(wanne read all the books)

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Post by JpRagavan Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:47 pm

Niveus wrote:
How to work out prices for the goods produced from the cow:

A) COST OF EACH ITEM WITH EQUAL VALUE:
1. Cost of each item produced from the cow: Cost per milk (considering there are 103 items produced by the cow: 92 milk, 8 meat and 3 or 4 hides): add 1a to 1d together)/103(or 104) items =
1a. Cost of cow:
1.b Stamina used milking your cow (20 stamina x 23 milking devided by the amount of milk gained per cow 92: (20 x 23): 460 stamina x .005 bronze =
1c. cost of stamina to slaughter = **stamina x .005 bronze =
1d. Cost of knife durability = cost of knife devided by total durability points =

B) ALTERNATIVE WORKING OUT COSTS FOR EACH TYPE OF ITEM:

1. Milk:
1.a Cost of cow devided by 103 or 104 items: *** bronze/103 or 104 items.
1.b Cost of stamina for each milk: 20 stamina x 23 milkings/92 milk (20 x 23/92 = 5 stamina) = 5 stamina x .005 bronze. (unless it costs you less stamina per milking.)

2. Meat and Hides:
2.a Cost of cow devided by 103 items: *** bronze/103 items.
2b. cost of stamina to slaughter = **stamina x .005 bronze =
2c. Cost of knife durability = cost of knife devided by total durability points =

Updated by Airy 2/11/2011
Are you sure it is .005 bronze per Stamina and not 0.5 bronze??

As in Spero,
> Town Jobs Give 0.5 Bronze per Stamina
> Healing Gives 0.6 per heal
> Even Working for Grail Lords give 0.5 bronze per stamina...!!


Mistakes :

1d. Cost of knife durability = (cost of knife / total durability points)* Durability spent =

B) ALTERNATIVE WORKING OUT COSTS FOR EACH TYPE OF ITEM:

0.a : Cost per Item = Cost of Cow / 103 (or 104) items

1. Milk:
1.a Cost of 92 milk : 0.a * 92
1.b Cost of stamina for each milk: 20 stamina x 23 milkings/92 milk (20 x 23/92 = 5 stamina) = 5 stamina x .5 bronze. (unless it costs you less stamina per milking.)
[So Total Stamina Costs for milk : 5* 0.5 *92 bronze]

2. Meat and Hides:
2.a Cost of 11 (or 12) Meat/Hides : 0.a * 11 (or 12) items.
2b. cost of stamina to slaughter = **stamina x .5 bronze =
2c. Cost of knife durability = (cost of knife/ total durability points)* Durability spent =

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:56 am

1d I wrote like it was, because I wanted everyone to understand it, some people actually dont understand what / means. Same with 1.a.

HMMM these arent mistakes their just some editing. Ranch animal - Cow 3681557770 which will now make all the other guides read wrong if you dont go ahead and change them all the same way, particuarly if you change the numbers .005. Just change it to .005 silver for those of us who are maths-dumb so we can understand it, and please if you wanted to add in your edits, ie cost of items = cow/ etc, just put it in brackets. Thanks.

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Post by JpRagavan Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:24 am

Airy wrote:1d I wrote like it was, because I wanted everyone to understand it, some people actually dont understand what / means. Same with 1.a.
Would it be better if there was an example along with the Formulas ??

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Post by Axel Ackland Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:04 am

In no way is the guide correct in saying .005 bronze per unit of stamina is a fair labor charge. Razz Why change the standard to silver? In the game, bronze is the basic unit of currency, for example, when the town creates a workorder for a cow to be bread you enter the amount in bronze, in Spero's case 250 bronze (2.5 silver) for 500 units of labor, so .5 bronze per unit.

I think the forumals are fine as they are, could be cleaned up though, examples would be nice but aren't necessary.

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:01 am

Labour charge is just using the lowest wage you can work for in town, its basically just an example. Most of the time I charge 1 bronze per stamina for my goods.

Yup, an example works JP Smile

And as with the standards, dont mind either way, just needs to be consistent, which I think our JP is gunna make sure happens. ^^

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